Algemeen Escort Agencies

[Vingerhoed]

Ik heb binnenkort een date met Elisabeth van Vialet. Ze is een escort try-out, wel mijn type qua vrouw. Zal de recensie delen hier.

 

[Voormalig lid 479]

Ik heb binnenkort een date met Elisabeth van Vialet. Ze is een escort try-out, wel mijn type qua vrouw. Zal de recensie delen

lees graag je review.

 

[Gelderlander3007]

Ik heb binnenkort een date met Elisabeth van Vialet. Ze is een escort try-out, wel mijn type qua vrouw. Zal de recensie delen

Het lijkt erop dat zij alweer van de website verdwenen is.

 

[Gelderlander3007]

Ik heb overigens enkele goede dates via Vialet gehad met Vivienne en Roos (2x).
Beide aangenaam gezelschap en een echte GFE. Vivienne wat meer girl next door en een echte studente. Roos lijkt wat meer ervaren en is wat wilder in bed ondanks dat het kennelijk maar een jaartje scheelt qua leeftijd. Wel twee totaal verschillende types qua persoonlijkheid.

 

[Vingerhoed]

Zoals ik schreef.
Elisabeth was een try-out escorte. Mijn afspraak zou haar eerste keer als escort zijn.
Helaas zegde ze op het laatste moment af.
Daarom is ze ook gelijk van de website afgehaald.

 

[Gelderlander3007]

Zoals ik schreef.
Elisabeth was een try-out escorte. Mijn afspraak zou haar eerste keer als escort zijn.
Helaas zegde ze op het laatste moment af.
Daarom is ze ook gelijk van de website afgehaald.

Ik zit eraan te denken om de andere try-out Suzanne te proberen.

 

[Gelderlander3007]

Ik ben een beetje aan het rondkijken bij diverse bureaus, maar wat mij opviel is dat bij meerdere bureaus (bijv. Courtesan Club en Society Service) alleen beschermde orale sex mogelijk is. Klopt dat in de praktijk ook of doen bepaalde dames toch aan PZC?

Iemand toevallig ervaring met Nicky (Vialet), Emma/Scarlett (Courtesan Club), Nina/Sophie (Society Service)? Je mag mij een DM sturen.

 

[Mark132]

Ik heb ooit 1 dame gehad van Society Service pzc aanbood. Ze hebben normaal een streng beleid dat ze dit niet aanbieden. Ik vraag er zelf ook nooit om. Bij the Courtesan club is dit mij nooit aamgeboden door een dame. Bij Vialet en Khloe consultancy deden tot nu toe alle dames pzc. Bij Vialet staat dit ook op de member pagina aangegeven dat de dames dit aanbieden.

 

[Voormalig lid 16692]

Was altijd in de veronderstelling dat dit bij geen enkel burea mogelijk is, maar pzc is bij vialet bijna altijd mogelijk (zelfs al vraag je er niet om). Bij Societyservice absoluut niet en staat ook meerdere malen duidelijk vermeld op de website.

 

[Captain_Koons]

@Peters en anderen
Zijn er nog specifieke verschillen aan te geven tussen pinksheets en upclass, waar in dit topic ook heel positief over is geschreven?

 

[Voormalig lid 16695]

@Peters en anderen
Zijn er nog specifieke verschillen aan te geven tussen pinksheets en upclass, waar in dit topic ook heel positief over is geschreven?

Tried to write my reply in Dutch but I'm afraid it's nowhere near good enough. I've seen both agencies and have been in contact with them previously. What strikes me is that they seem to have in common that they approach things from a 'whatever makes the cliënt happy' point of view. This contrary to agencies like TCC and SS where it's more a 'keep the escort happy and they then will give the cliënt the best experience'. The latter aligns better with my thoughts but that's personal.

With the line of work that I do and my personal situation, I am very cautious about privacy. With that in mind, I did not feel comfortable providing my details with Pink Sheets. Their level of data protection just didn't cut it for me. Also, I don't like that they seem to have ripped a large part of their online content from their competitors. Upclass however seems to take their business very serious, takes precautions to protect their clients data, is professional and original. Although their current portfolio does not appeal to me, their level of professionalism does so I always keep them in mind. If I were to choose between Upclass and PinkSheets, it would be an easy choice for me: Upclass for sure. I also happen to like their new website a lot, I'm just missing some personal information about their ladies.

These are just my thoughts on an otherwise boring Wednesday evening alone.

 

[Sti77eGenieter]

With the line of work that I do and my personal situation, I am very cautious about privacy. With that in mind, I did not feel comfortable providing my details with Pink Sheets. Their level of data protection just didn't cut it for me.
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Thanks for your extensive explenation. Very helpfull.

I am curious how you know about an agency's data protection?

I always plan dates in hotels and never provide my full name. Payment is cash so i am not to worried about my data privacy as the agency just does not have much data on me.

Or am i missing something?

 

[Voormalig lid 16695]

Thanks for your extensive explenation. Very helpfull.

I am curious how you know about an agency's data protection?

I always plan dates in hotels and never provide my full name. Payment is cash so i am not to worried about my data privacy as the agency just does not have much data on me.

Or am i missing something?

First off; I would not book with an agency that did not need my real name and didn't check my details. I would only assume if they wouldn't care about something like that they either don't care about the safety of their ladies and are poor at their job in that perspective or they are careless about where they send their ladies in a more general sense. I would assume (and expect) at these rates I can expect a serious business who has 'their act together'. So to speak. Something like you're describing would benefit your privacy but in my opinion is a tell tell for a company who does not have their act together. I don't want to display too much information and make the agency vulnerable to attacks, but in my (professional) opinion they are and contrary to what I see with other companies (escorting and otherwise) they did not take enough precautions, if any at all.

 

[Captain_Koons]

Thank you for your response. Not easy is to decide which approach suits me more.

This contrary to agencies like TCC and SS where it's more a 'keep the escort happy and they then will give the cliënt the best experience'. The latter aligns better with my thoughts but that's personal.

That definitely sounds more like a normal date with a women. (There was even a joke of someone here stating that a girlfriend experience is either pleasant OR realistic).
In general I don't seem to have problems to assume the role of client and just tell her how I view our date. On the other hand my experience is they tend to be too active in trying to provide a good service rather than rely on natural chemistry.

 

[Captain_Koons]

I'm still curious how you would know about an agency's data protection. Your last message is more about their customer screening policy.

 

[Voormalig lid 16695]

I'm still curious how you would know about an agency's data protection. Your last message is more about their customer screening policy.

I don't want to display too much information on a public source and make the agency vulnerable to attacks. That would unnecessarily harmful. On the same note, I wouldn't discuss personal details of the escorts I've met, privacy wise I can only assume that is not desirable either.

 

[makelovenotwar]

Interessante discussie. Ik vraag bureaus vaak om hun data privacy maatregelen voor een boeking, wat in deze branch cruciaal is. SS bijvoorbeeld was er erg ontwijkend over, die is dus voor mij een grote nee, nee.

 

[Voormalig lid 16695]

Interessante discussie. Ik vraag bureaus vaak om hun data privacy maatregelen voor een boeking, wat in deze branch cruciaal is. SS bijvoorbeeld was er erg ontwijkend over, die is dus voor mij een grote nee, nee.

It's wise of them not to get into that. In fact, any cyber security expert will advise you to never provide these details as they can be used against you to breach your security. If I'm looking to obtain information that can be a bit sensitive I never ask direct questions such as "how do you protect your data" but more indirect, in the line of "have you ever done or considered pen testing". And always via phone not email, you can tell a lot by a response or lack thereof. If the word "pen testing" is completely new to them I'll have my answer. From what I've been able to tell SS takes this aspect very serious. Without any technical knowledge you'll be able to come to some conclusions as well. For instance; their members use a 4 digit number for login and not email. That suggests they do not store your data near the most likely place of attack: their website.

An other agency that appears to be doing a great job with protecting your data is one called Secret Agents. Their choices are very limited and often not my best match but how they run their business appeals to me.

Okay, time to get to work now.

 

[makelovenotwar]

It's wise of them not to get into that. In fact, any cyber security expert will advise you to never provide these details as they can be used against you to breach your security. If I'm looking to obtain information that can be a bit sensitive I never ask direct questions such as "how do you protect your data" but more indirect, in the line of "have you ever done or considered pen testing". And always via phone not email, you can tell a lot by a response or lack thereof. If the word "pen testing" is completely new to them I'll have my answer. From what I've been able to tell SS takes this aspect very serious. Without any technical knowledge you'll be able to come to some conclusions as well. For instance; their members use a 4 digit number for login and not email. That suggests they do not store your data near the most likely place of attack: their website.

An other agency that appears to be doing a great job with protecting your data is one called Secret Agents. Their choices are very limited and often not my best match but how they run their business appeals to me.

Okay, time to get to work now.

Er zijn bureaus die in algemene termen wel een bekenisvol antwoord geven wat niets afdoet aan hun beveiliging, dat geeft mij een veel beter gevoel. Bijvoorbeeld op de vraag hoelang SS mijn gegevens bewaarde en wie ze kon inzien wilden ze geen antwoord op geven. Dat is zorgwekkend!

 

[Voormalig lid 479]

@Captain_Koons
Ik moet eerlijk zeggen dat het al weer even geleden is dat ik bij beide een boeking heb geplaatst, maar voor mij staat de persoonlijke service van Upclass ver bovenaan. Upclass levert in naar mijn mening de beste service op het gebied van ondersteuning en contact.
Pinksheets krijgt het naar mijn idee steeds drukker, wat voor het bedrijf natuurlijk heel goed is, maar je ziet het terug in de soms wat rommelige communicatie naar de klant. Het scoort nog steeds wel voldoende, maar het valt op.

Bij sommige bureaus verbaas ik me wel eens hoe de communicatie verloopt.
Afgelopen week wilde ik een boeking plaatsen bij een niet nader te noemen bureau, nog voordat ik alle informatie over de boeking had, kreeg ik al een link of ik even wilde aanbetalen. Toen ik zei maar hoe gaat het dan verder, kwam er niet echt een uitleg, toen maar aanbetaald. Toen kwam er alsnog nadere informatie. beetje vreemde gang van zaken, planner had blijkbaar haar dag niet. Nu moet ik wel zeggen, dat ik in een ver verleden wel eens geboekt had bij dit bureau, dus het wel vertrouwde en gerust kon aanbetalen. Maar als nieuwe klant zou ik daar toch terughoudend in zijn.

 

[Voormalig lid 16695]

@makelovenotwar: Sorry to hear about that. Personally I always check a privacy statement. If here's none, I'm out. A privacy statement should cover which details are stored and for how long. I've seen them with most serious agencies in The Netherlands. In that perspective, they are way ahead of agencies in other places in the world.

@Peters: I am not in the position to make a prepayment because I can't leave a paper trail. I fully understand and respect for the need to verify that I am serious and hence I provide my personal data if I'm comfortable but the prepayment is currently a deal breaker for me. I've researched options to do so discreetly and that provided some options but it's a bit of a hassle.

If I were to run a business that for example is a mindfulness resort with 15 very unique psychologists with limited availability I would want some security as well and I would be perfectly fine with providing a prepayment. But worst case scenario I could explain such a prepayment to my other half. A prepayment to an escortservice not so much.

May I ask, how do y'all feel about having to provide a prepayment to secure a booking with an escort? It's not just the agencies, I see this practice with independents (also in other parts of the world) as well. Is this the new standard and we're better off getting used to it? Curious about your opinions!

 

[Tom024]

I think it depends on how you feel when you talk to the lady in question. How reliable does she come across, how well does the contact go and don't forget her references and reviews. I don't think I would do it myself with a lady who offers herself on Kinky.nl, unless she can also be visited and you already know her. And I don't believe in ordinary escort agencies where the girls are fully booked in one night for multiple visits. If you go for high class and enough agencies are mentioned here, you will get a good impression, and yes, you may take a gamble the first time. Orient yourself well via this site or by approaching someone directly after a favorable review.

 

[Voormalig lid 16695]

Sorry for the language barrier. My question really is:
1. How do you feel about making a prepayment to an escort(service).
2. How would you go about that and keep it discreet (hidden) from for example your partner.
I feel like a complete jerk for writing this but it does trouble my mind. On the other hand, I can't imagine I'm alone in this.

 

[Captain_Koons]

@Peters
Ik moet zeggen dat het boekingsformulier van upclass ook alle ruimte biedt om voorkeuren aan te geven. En als ze daar daadwerkelijk iets mee doen is dat wel top.

May I ask, how do y'all feel about having to provide a prepayment to secure a booking with an escort? It's not just the agencies, I see this practice with independents (also in other parts of the world) as well. Is this the new standard and we're better off getting used to it? Curious about your opinions!

With these agencies it is my preferred payment method although I do limit the time between payment and the date. With independents no way. I don't like to share my identity neither would I be willing to prepay.

With agencies I also prefer the extra subtleness. No need to conceal that it's a paid date in the conversation, but handing over cash just before is a bit too much for me.
In my situation, withdrawing large amounts of cash would raise as much suspicion as transferring money to vague bank accounts does. See also https://www.girlsreview.nl/threads/hoe-komen-jullie-aan-contant-geld.2979/

 

[Tom024]

1. I don't like it, but if the story is good, the click and the trust there you have to accept it or look further.
2. You can only keep it hidden from your partner if you have your own (business) account.

 

[Voormalig lid 479]

I have absolutely no problem with paying an deposit for confirmation.
in 99 out of 100 cases I even ask if I can pay the entire amount in advance, then there is no moment of money transfer at the time itself. That makes it just a little more pleasant for me. The agency I talked about in my previous post, again does not want to be paid in full in advance. You can pay the remainder in cash or by means of a payment request when the lady has arrived.

Now I also realize that it is easy for me to talk, being single, I have no problems with the fact that it is on my bank statement. In addition, there is always a neutral name and yes with some google search you will end up with an escort agency, but I don't expect my accountant to do that. Even if he did, I don't care. I wonder to myself if a partner would do that. But of course that also depends on the type of partner you have.

I think it has almost become the standard, especially with high class escorts, to make a deposit. This is of course also because many fake agreements are / were made.

I know from 1 agency that you could also pay with Western Union in the past, I don't know if they still do that, that is of course fairly anonymous.

 

[Voormalig lid 479]

@Peters
Ik moet zeggen dat het boekingsformulier van upclass ook alle ruimte biedt om voorkeuren aan te geven. En als ze daar daadwerkelijk iets mee doen is dat wel top.

Bij Upclass doen ze daar zeker wat mee, sowieso belt de eigenaresse je op een voor jouw geschikt moment om ook alles nog even door te spreken.

 

[Captain_Koons]

2. You can only keep it hidden from your partner if you have your own (business) account.

Ideally you also receive your income on that account and ensure there is a surplus.

 

[Jester]

1. How do you feel about making a prepayment to an escort(service).
2. How would you go about that and keep it discreet (hidden) from for example your partner.

@CVS_travelfun
I am no fan of having to pay at the start of the date. Starting a date woth formalities is not my thing. It should be all about the dress and the energy of a swell date.
More than once I have offered to pay directly (as is being requested on every website), but without exception the lady pushed it away (maybe with the same hestation as I have). But that keeps me, during the date, busy with serching for the right moment to pay instead of focussing on important things.
The big plus of an agency in comparison to an independent is their trackrecord and therefore I always pay in full in advance. Some independents send a Tikkie for the downpayment and another one at the date. I like this cashless option.

For your second question I have a personal bank account with a separate creditcard. For my accountant this is an expense account with nu deductables. He receives no statements of this account except for the balance at the tax return.

 

[pussymonster]

@Captain_Koons
voor mij staat de persoonlijke service van Upclass ver bovenaan. Upclass levert in naar mijn mening de beste service op het gebied van ondersteuning en contact.

Dat mis is wel eens bij andere zogenaamde high class bureaus. High class betekent voor mij ook een backoffice die behulpzaam is, klantvriendelijk en meewerkt. Verder lees ik alleen maar zeer positieve dingen over upclass. Ik zal eens contact met ze opnemen.