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Zijn er nog betrouwbare bureaus met hollandse dames van begin 20 ? Ik zie Olivia bij dreams en desires als een match qua omschrijving van wat ik zoek maar die heeft helaas geen foto's. Verder lijkt het aanbod bij dreams en desires niet meer wat het was.
 
Gelderlander3007 zei:
I have to say that I find the line-up at Vialet a bit of a decline, but that is my personal taste. Not many ladies anymore who are my type or meet my wishes in terms of looks/length.
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I agree, and I have these thoughts about multiple agencies. The new arrivals don't seem very exciting, and the few elite ladies who have been at the agencies for some time are rarely available.

I wonder what the cause is?
 
Oskar zei:
I agree, and I have these thoughts about multiple agencies. The new arrivals don't seem very exciting, and the few elite ladies who have been at the agencies for some time are rarely available.

I wonder what the cause is?
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I think that the number of available ladies in the higher segment (looks & brains) is limited and the number of agencies is too large for that. To be able to earn a nice living, you will automatically have to lower your recruitment and selection requirements. Then it quickly becomes average, but since most men are also average, it is not so noticeable very quickly.

Personally, I would like to try a number of agencies and ladies to discover the top ladies, but the safe sex protocols at many agencies regarding oral sex unfortunately hold me back.

The ladies of Uppclass International look very attractive in the pictures. Maybe I'll take a look there.
 
Gelderlander3007 zei:
I think that the number of available ladies in the higher segment (looks & brains) is limited and the number of agencies is too large for that. To be able to earn a nice living, you will automatically have to lower your recruitment and selection requirements. Then it quickly becomes average, but since most men are also average, it is not so noticeable very quickly.

Personally, I would like to try a number of agencies and ladies to discover the top ladies, but the safe sex protocols at many agencies regarding oral sex unfortunately hold me back.

The ladies of Uppclass International look very attractive in the pictures. Maybe I'll take a look there.
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That makes sense, but I get the impression that escorts at Dutch high class agencies have been becoming less attractive (on average) over time. Maybe the number of agencies has increased, so that the elite ladies are spread out over more agencies? Or is there something else at play? I wonder if the most impressive ladies are increasingly going the independent route. Or maybe there are "ultra high end" agencies that I am unaware of.

I like Upclass, but the inability to view photos with faces makes me hesitant. A lady can have an amazing body, but an average face. For me, the face is very important.
 
There will be many reasons, but it could be a temporary downturn. I have no idea about the past since I do this almost two years but the real good looking ladies are rare.
When I walk outside in the city then I see many nice ladies I would like to date, but it seems they are not earning money by having sex with unknown men.

What also could be a cause is the fact that ladies can earn a lot of money via websites like only fans or other platforms like that. I know a lady that worked for a club in the Netherlands and also does private appointments via Kinky. She now also stared offering content on these kind of websites and seems to be stopped with her kinky advertisement.
Websites like instagram, onlyfans, friends to follow etc like to take a big piece out of the market this way and bring real life sex to the online world.
 
I think one of the "problems" is.

That there is really good money to be made in offering virtual services.
This makes it more unattractive to switch to escorting.

In addition, there has been a proliferation of agencies in recent years.
As a result, the ladies are much more spread out.
The payout percentages also differ per agency.
 
I never tried an agency and probably won't.... Why ppl look for girls from an agency instead of private girl where you can see he real picture etc... ?
As far as I could understand, agencies girls use fake pictures or hide their faces etc... and then you have all those hidden extras that the girl asks when you meet her.

I know in private there are also risk, a very photoshop picture that the girl doesn't look like to be the same and also the servicer might disappointed me etc...
By why ppl go to agencies for average girls ?


Definetely Onlyfans/virtual sex steal a lot from the market but on the other hand not every girl wants to expose herself to the public and that's why they post profiles no escort site only with fake name and details.
 
The reason I choose an agency is very simple. I make and pay for the appointment and said I will arrange this with the lady. I don't have to worry about being ripped off with a deposit.

Not all agencies use fake photos. In addition, at many agencies, if you are a regular customer, you can also see the photos with a face, or more photos
 
I agree with Peters. I have been a client at AVG for 20 years now and have never been disappointed by their service. In the very rare occasion that a date didn't work out I have always been compensated. The points is though that the cost are a lot higher. Also at some of the dutch agencies they have very pretty girls who they don't advertise for privacy reasons. If you are a well known client you migth get the chance to date these ladies.

Peters2.0 zei:
The reason I choose an agency is very simple. I make and pay for the appointment and said I will arrange this with the lady. I don't have to worry about being ripped off with a deposit.

Not all agencies use fake photos. In addition, at many agencies, if you are a regular customer, you can also see the photos with a face, or more photos
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mancheta zei:
I never tried an agency and probably won't.... Why ppl look for girls from an agency instead of private girl where you can see he real picture etc... ?
As far as I could understand, agencies girls use fake pictures or hide their faces etc... and then you have all those hidden extras that the girl asks when you meet her.

I know in private there are also risk, a very photoshop picture that the girl doesn't look like to be the same and also the servicer might disappointed me etc...
By why ppl go to agencies for average girls ?


Definetely Onlyfans/virtual sex steal a lot from the market but on the other hand not every girl wants to expose herself to the public and that's why they post profiles no escort site only with fake name and details.
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I am curious about your selection method then.

Professional independent escorts with their own website have slightly lower rates, but not by much. It can be convenient to communicate directly with the girl, but the agency also comes with advantages (more choice, recommendations).

I know a couple of girls from an ad I placed on sexjobs.nl (sugar daddy section). I expect other websites to give similar results (suikermaatje.nl for example). My experience is that it is hard to find the complete package. For example one of them has a face that would place her in top 5 of any high class escort agency, but she is also more curvy than what an agency would describe as curvy, and doesn't have bachelor level like the girls in these agencies.

I do not have experience with any independent girl on for example kinky.nl (other than sending some messages). Unlike the previous two categories they do this as main occupation. I expect that they have more bad experiences than the ones that work through the agencies, where trusted clients and pre-payment are common. Therefore I doubt if they can be as relaxed. For me this is already reflected the moment you reach out to them.

I have to admit it was a bit underwhelming experience when I first had access to pictures including face from a high class agency. More average than I expected. But they still offer the best overall score for me.
Gelderlander3007 zei:
When I walk outside in the city then I see many nice ladies I would like to date, but it seems they are not earning money by having sex with unknown men.
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Oh if only I could have the superpower of knowing which of the girls I see in public are available for paid sex. I am sure that some girls that I had in my hotel room, walk by and the men will be thinking 'what on earth somebody has to do to get that sort of woman in your bed'. I'm glad that for those specific girls I had found the answer. Jessica told me how men of my age that she encounters in her professional life can't keep their eyes off of her. Made me feel very privileged considering I did exactly what these men where thinking of doing with her.
 
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Ik heb totaal geen ervaring met escort agencies, dus ik vraag het hier maar even.

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Edit: volgens mij ben ik er al achter. Er staat licentie nummer 15.06.529. Waar ik net al over lees dat heel veel escort sites dit gebruiken.

Dan is mijn volgende vraag: is er in Limburg een betrouwbaar escort bureau?
 
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Of ze betrouwbaar zijn valt zo niet te zeggen. Ik neem aan dat het licentienummer uniek is en klopt. Maar ik vind wel dat ze al erg veel dames hebben voor een tarief die veel te laag ligt. € 125 euro. Wat houdt zo'n dame er dan nog aan over?

Veel service kan ze niet bieden voor dat geld. Nee niet mijn ding dergelijke buro's, ze zal zich toch fris moeten kleden en reizen. Of wordt ze door de provincie heen vervoert en mag ze er acht op een nacht doen. Dat wil je toch niet?
 
Het lijkt mij meer een gevalletje sluikreclame voor een vaag bureau, maar dat is mijn eerste gedachte voor iemand met een gloednieuw profiel zonder berichten.
Als het dan toch serieus is, dan lijkt het ook mij to good to be true. Teveel dames idd, design website lijkt op andere minder betrouwbare bureaus, vreemd om tarieven per half uur te plaatsen. Lijkt een beetje misleidend ten opzichte van de norm.
Hopelijk heb ik het verkeerd.
 
I am sorry guys but in NL escort services are very much behind compared to lots of countries in Europe: here they are overpriced, with lots of rules, price/quality is ratio very high. I still wonder why but is a fact.
 
I can agree 100%, England is much better for this hobby. The supply is higher, prices are lower and services are better. Here everything is an extra, by the time you add up what you want you are paying a ton.

It might be because here it is more tightly regulated. I was talking to an ex-escort whom I know in my personal life, she was telling me how much taxes they have to pay etc. After their costs, the net income is significantly lower than say Engalnd.

I have some experience with Eastern European escort agencies, they are much lower in price but sometimes the hit and miss is too much of a risk there.

Germany - Not yet experienced, would be quite curious to try a few.
 

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